Comments on: My son can’t read his spelling words, is this ok? (submitted by L Mison) http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/ Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:40:15 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: everyonecanlearn http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-33 everyonecanlearn Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:55:33 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-33 I am sorry, been out of pocket for a while. If phonics isn't working, they really need an Orton Gillingham based program. Checkout <a href="http://www.bartonreading.com" rel="nofollow">www.bartonreading.com </a>for some descriptions and a possible program that is pretty inexpensive and doesn't require the level of training most of these programs do. Out of all students about 25% of the population can not learn to read through phonics. I am sorry, been out of pocket for a while. If phonics isn’t working, they really need an Orton Gillingham based program. Checkout http://www.bartonreading.com for some descriptions and a possible program that is pretty inexpensive and doesn’t require the level of training most of these programs do. Out of all students about 25% of the population can not learn to read through phonics.

]]> By: Barb http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-31 Barb Sun, 24 May 2009 16:59:49 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-31 I agree with Adam, my daughter is the same, an excellent silent reader with great comprehension but not so good at spelling. She has a learning disability and I spent a fortune with Lindamood Bell and other phonics-type private tutoring and it never helped with fluency. What do you do when phonics doesn't seem to work? By the way, as a first year special education teacher, I admit that I have not given the spelling the attention it deserves and I love the idea of teaching the words they misspell in writing. But, having said that.. I don't give writing its due time either... any suggestions on tying that all with reading? I agree with Adam, my daughter is the same, an excellent silent reader with great comprehension but not so good at spelling. She has a learning disability and I spent a fortune with Lindamood Bell and other phonics-type private tutoring and it never helped with fluency.

What do you do when phonics doesn’t seem to work?

By the way, as a first year special education teacher, I admit that I have not given the spelling the attention it deserves and I love the idea of teaching the words they misspell in writing. But, having said that.. I don’t give writing its due time either… any suggestions on tying that all with reading?

]]> By: Allan http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-9 Allan Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:05:00 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-9 Dont just 'if only ...'. Change can come, but 'only' if we work for it. Use some simple changes, like omitting silent letters, eg, hav, ar, dum; and some variants that ar in use, eg, thru, lite, dialog, tho. And talk change with your frends. Dont just ‘if only …’.
Change can come, but ‘only’ if we work for it.
Use some simple changes, like omitting silent letters, eg,
hav, ar, dum; and some variants that ar in use, eg, thru, lite, dialog, tho. And talk change with your frends.

]]> By: flighttoinsanity http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-8 flighttoinsanity Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:21:42 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-8 Yeah, i took 3 years of spanish, and i can sit down to a book written in Spanish. i can read it aloud with confidence and i sound good.... i don't have any idea what i just said, but i sound good. too much time conjugating verbs and not enought time in conversational enviroment. que lastima. Yeah, i took 3 years of spanish, and i can sit down to a book written in Spanish. i can read it aloud with confidence and i sound good…. i don’t have any idea what i just said, but i sound good. too much time conjugating verbs and not enought time in conversational enviroment. que lastima.

]]> By: everyonecanlearn http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-6 everyonecanlearn Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:00:15 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-6 Wouldn't we all love to have our spelling rules as simple as other languages, like Spanish. You see it, you know how each letter sounds and you can always say it right. You might not know what it means, but you can certainly say it correctly if you have learned their sounds. Vowels always make the same sound. They don't have 2 or 3 sounds they make. If only... Wouldn’t we all love to have our spelling rules as simple as other languages, like Spanish. You see it, you know how each letter sounds and you can always say it right. You might not know what it means, but you can certainly say it correctly if you have learned their sounds. Vowels always make the same sound. They don’t have 2 or 3 sounds they make. If only…

]]> By: Allan http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-5 Allan Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:51:08 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-5 Reading to learn to spell? I have a sister-in-law who is the worlds most avaricious reader and the worlds worst speller!!! Reading is the goal, spelling only a tool to help get u there. But as we eventually read word shapes (like the Chinese) spelling is not a necessity. Good if u can manage it; but not terminal if u cant. But we should be trying to make it possible for it to help everyone because of its logic, which is weak at the present. There are more than 'some' exceptions to spelling rules. English spelling abounds with exceptions. Its been said there are more exceptions than there are rules! Reading to learn to spell? I have a sister-in-law who is the worlds most avaricious reader and the worlds worst speller!!!
Reading is the goal, spelling only a tool to help get u there. But as we eventually read word shapes (like the Chinese) spelling is not a necessity. Good if u can manage it; but not terminal if u cant.
But we should be trying to make it possible for it to help everyone because of its logic, which is weak at the present.
There are more than ’some’ exceptions to spelling rules. English spelling abounds with exceptions. Its been said there are more exceptions than there are rules!

]]> By: everyonecanlearn http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-4 everyonecanlearn Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:26:38 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-4 I can empathize with you on how our spelling system is structured however it has been this way a very long time. I do not expect it will change. The importance in this post is in regards to students needing to be able to read a word in order to learn to spell it. Most of our spelling system does make since and students can be taught rules for how the system works. There are some exceptions but I do not believe this will change. I can empathize with you on how our spelling system is structured however it has been this way a very long time. I do not expect it will change. The importance in this post is in regards to students needing to be able to read a word in order to learn to spell it. Most of our spelling system does make since and students can be taught rules for how the system works. There are some exceptions but I do not believe this will change.

]]> By: Allan http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/my-son-cant-read-his-spelling-words-is-this-ok-submitted-by-l-mison/#comment-3 Allan Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:49:31 +0000 http://everyonecanlearn.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-3 'Spelling is an important skill. It should not be dismissed.' You are correct in wiritng this! But it should be made sensible. It is asking too much of many children (and, indeed, many adults) to expect them to be able to spell well. Our spelling is dum (any spelling 'system' that spells that word with a 'b' must be dum!). When 20 percent plus of our students and population fail in literacy we blame teachers, parents. politicians, anybody and anything but the spelling that we impose. Spelling is part of the alfabetical writing communication tool, and needs to be upgraded, modernized, and honed like any other tool. It needs to be logical, so we dont have to memorize the dictionary to be 'good spellers' and literate. ‘Spelling is an important skill. It should not be dismissed.’ You are correct in wiritng this!
But it should be made sensible. It is asking too much of many children (and, indeed, many adults) to expect them to be able to spell well.
Our spelling is dum (any spelling ’system’ that spells that word with a ‘b’ must be dum!). When 20 percent plus of our students and population fail in literacy we blame teachers, parents. politicians, anybody and anything but the spelling that we impose.
Spelling is part of the alfabetical writing communication tool, and needs to be upgraded, modernized, and honed like any other tool. It needs to be logical, so we dont have to memorize the dictionary to be ‘good spellers’ and literate.

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